Transcript Fy 25 Q 1
Transcript Fy 25 Q 1
BRETT IVERSEN:
Good afternoon and thank you for joining us today. On the call with me are
Satya Nadella, chairman and chief executive officer, Amy Hood, chief
financial officer, Alice Jolla, chief accounting officer, and Keith Dolliver,
corporate secretary and deputy general counsel.
On the Microsoft Investor Relations website, you can find our earnings
press release and financial summary slide deck, which is intended to
supplement our prepared remarks during today’s call and provides the
reconciliation of differences between GAAP and non-GAAP financial
measures. We have recast certain prior period amounts to reflect the FY25
changes to the composition of our segments announced in August 2024.
Additional details including FY23 and FY24 recast segment revenue,
operating income, and product and service level revenue can be found in
the financial statements file on the Investor Relations website. More
detailed outlook slides will also be available on the Microsoft Investor
Relations website when we provide outlook commentary on today’s call.
On this call we will discuss certain non-GAAP items. The non-GAAP financial
measures provided should not be considered as a substitute for or superior
to the measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with
GAAP. They are included as additional clarifying items to aid investors in
further understanding the company's first quarter performance in addition
to the impact these items and events have on the financial results.
SATYA NADELLA:
Thank you, Brett.
We are off to a solid start to our fiscal year, driven by continued strength of
the Microsoft Cloud, which surpassed $38.9 billion in revenue, up 22%.
Azure Arc now has over 39,000 customers across every industry, including
American Tower, CTT, L’Oreal, up more than 80% year-over-year.
We now have datacenters in over 60 regions around the world, and this
quarter we announced new cloud and AI infrastructure investments in
Brazil, Italy, Mexico, and Sweden, as we expand our capacity in line with
long-term demand signals.
At the silicon layer, our new Cobalt 100 VMs are being used by companies
like Databricks, Elastic, Siemens, Snowflake, and Synopsys to power their
general-purpose workloads at up to 50% better price-performance than
previous generations.
In fact, we were the first cloud to bring up NVIDIA’s Blackwell system with
GB200-powered AI servers.
More broadly, with Azure AI, we are building an end-to-end app platform
to help customers build their own copilots and agents.
Azure OpenAI usage more than doubled over the past six months, as both
digital natives like Grammarly and Harvey, as well as established enterprises
like Bajaj Finance, Hitachi, KT, and LG, move apps from test to production.
And this quarter, we added support for OpenAI’s newest model family “o1.”
And, with GitHub Models, we now provide access to our full model catalog
directly within the GitHub developer workflow.
We now have over 16,000 paid Fabric customers, including over 70% of the
Fortune 500.
Now, on to developers.
Citizen developers at ZF, for example, build apps simply by describing what
they need using natural language.
Now, on to work.
We launched the next wave of Microsoft 365 Copilot innovation last month,
bringing together web, work, and Pages as a new design system for
knowledge work.
Pages is the first new digital artifact for the AI age, and it is designed to
help you ideate with AI and collaborate with other people.
Vodafone, for example, will roll out Microsoft 365 Copilot to 68,000
employees after a trial showed that on average they saved three hours per
person per week. And UBS will deploy 50,000 seats, in our largest FinServ
deal to date.
All-up, nearly 70% of the Fortune 500 now use Microsoft 365 Copilot, and
customers continue to adopt it at a faster rate than any other new
Microsoft 365 suite.
Copilot is the UI for AI, and with Microsoft 365 Copilot, Copilot Studio,
agents, and now autonomous agents we have built an end-to-end system
for AI business transformation.
With Copilot Studio, organizations can build and connect Microsoft 365
Copilot to autonomous agents, which then delegate to Copilot when there
is an exception.
More than 100,000 organizations, from Nsure, Standard Bank, and
Thomson Reuters, to Virgin Money and Zurich Insurance have used Copilot
Studio to date, up over 2X quarter-over-quarter.
And monthly active users of Copilot across our CRM and ERP portfolio
increased over 60% quarter-over-quarter.
Our Dynamics 365 Contact Center is also winning customers like Currys, Le
Creuset, and RXO, as it brings generative AI to every customer engagement
channel.
One year in, DAX Copilot is now documenting over 1.3 million physician-
patient encounters each month at over 500 healthcare organizations like
Baptist Medical Group, Baylor Scott & White, Greater Baltimore Medical
Center, Novant Health, and Overlake Medical Center.
It is showing faster revenue growth than GitHub Copilot did in its first year.
Nearly 75% of our Teams Enterprise customers now buy Premium, Phone,
or Rooms.
When it comes to Windows, our new class of Copilot+ PCs is winning new
customers.
And, as we approach the end of support for Windows 10 a year from now,
we are well positioned to transition our customers to Windows 11, ensuring
they benefit from the enhanced features and security improvements we
have introduced over the past few years.
Now, on to security.
And we continue to take what we learn and turn it into innovation across
our products.
Customers have used Defender to discover and secure more than 750,000
GenAI app instances; and used Purview to audit over a billion Copilot
interactions to meet their compliance obligations.
And, all up, we continue to take share across all major categories we serve
and are consistently recognized by top analysts as the leader in 20
categories, more than any other vendor.
Member growth continues to accelerate, with markets like India and Brazil
both growing at double digits.
We are also seeing record engagement as we introduce new ways for our
more than one billion members to connect, sell services, get hired, and
share knowledge.
Our AI-powered tools also continue to transform how people sell, learn,
and hire.
In sales, new AI features help every team member perform at the level of
top sellers and drive more profitable growth.
LinkedIn’s first agent, Hiring Assistant, will help hirers find qualified
candidates faster by tackling the most time-consuming tasks.
Already, hirers who use AI-assisted messages see a 44% higher acceptance
rate compared to those who don’t.
And it includes advanced capabilities like Voice and Vision that make it
more delightful and useful, and feel more natural. You can both browse and
converse with Copilot simultaneously, because Copilot sees what you see.
Now, on to gaming.
One year since we closed our acquisition of Activision Blizzard King, we are
focused on building a business positioned for long-term growth, driven by
higher-margin content and services.
You already see this transformation in our results, as we diversify the ways
that gamers access our content.
We set new records for monthly active users in the quarter, as more players
than ever play our games across devices and on the Xbox platform.
Game Pass also set a new Q1 record for total revenue and average revenue
per subscriber.
And, as we look ahead, our IP across our studios has never been stronger.
Last week’s launch of Black Ops 6 was the biggest Call of Duty release ever,
setting a record for day one players, as well as Game Pass subscriber adds
on launch day. And unit sales on PlayStation and Steam were also up over
60% year-over-year.
This speaks to our strategy of meeting gamers where they are by enabling
them to play more games across the screens they spend their time on.
In three weeks time, we will hold our Ignite conference, and I look forward
to sharing more then about how we are helping every business function
use AI to drive growth in this new era.
AMY HOOD:
Thank you, Satya, and good afternoon everyone. This quarter, revenue was
$65.6 billion, up 16%, and earnings per share was $3.30, an increase of 10%.
With strong execution by our sales teams and partners, we delivered a solid
start to our fiscal year with double-digit top and bottom-line growth. We
also saw continued share gains across many of our businesses. In our
commercial business, increased demand and growth in long-term
commitments to our Microsoft Cloud platform drove our results.
FX did not have a significant impact on our results and was roughly in line
with expectations on total company revenue, segment level revenue, COGS,
and operating expense growth.
Microsoft Cloud revenue was $38.9 billion and grew 22%, roughly in line
with expectations. Microsoft Cloud gross margin percentage decreased 2
points year-over-year to 71%. This was slightly better than expected due to
improvement in Azure, although the gross margin percentage decrease
year-over-year continues to be driven by scaling our AI infrastructure.
Company gross margin dollars increased 13% and 14% in constant currency
and gross margin percentage was 69%, down 2 points year-over-year
driven by the lower Microsoft Cloud gross margin noted earlier, as well as
the impact from purchase accounting adjustments, integration, and
transaction-related costs from the Activision acquisition.
Operating expenses increased 12%, lower than expected due to our focus
on cost efficiencies and ongoing prioritization work. Operating expense
growth included 9 points from the Activision acquisition.
At a total company level, headcount at the end of September was 8%
higher than a year ago. Excluding the growth from the Activision
acquisition, headcount was 2% higher.
Operating income increased 14% and operating margins were 47%, down 1
point year-over-year. Excluding the net impact from the Activision
acquisition, operating margins were up 1 point as we continue to drive
efficiencies across our businesses as we invest in AI infrastructure and
capabilities.
Revenue from Productivity and Business Processes was $28.3 billion and
grew 12% and 13% in constant currency, ahead of expectations driven by
better-than-expected results across all businesses.
Dynamics revenue grew 14%, driven by Dynamics 365 which grew 18% and
19% in constant currency with continued growth across all workloads and
continued share gains. As a reminder, Dynamics 365 represents about 90%
of total Dynamics revenue.
Segment gross margin dollars increased 11% and 12% in constant currency
and gross margin percentage decreased slightly year-over-year driven by
scaling our AI infrastructure. Operating expenses increased 2% and
operating income increased 16%.
Next, the Intelligent Cloud segment. Revenue was $24.1 billion, increasing
20% and 21% in constant currency, in line with expectations.
Azure and other cloud services revenue grew 33% and 34% in constant
currency, with healthy consumption trends that were in line with
expectations. The better-than-expected result was due to the small benefit
from in-period revenue recognition noted earlier. Azure growth included
roughly 12 points from AI services, similar to last quarter. Demand
continues to be higher than our available capacity. Non-AI growth trends
were also in line with expectations in total and across regions as customers
continue to migrate and modernize on the Azure platform. The non-AI
point contribution to Azure growth was sequentially lower by
approximately 1 point.
Segment gross margin dollars increased 15% and gross margin percentage
decreased 3 points year-over-year driven by scaling our AI infrastructure.
Operating expenses increased 8% and operating income grew 18%.
Now to More Personal Computing. Revenue was $13.2 billion, increasing
17%, with 15 points of net impact from the Activision acquisition. Results
were above expectations driven by Gaming and Search.
Search and news advertising revenue ex-TAC increased 18% and 19% in
constant currency, ahead of expectations primarily due to continued
execution improvement. We saw rate expansion in addition to healthy
volume growth in both Edge and Bing.
And in Gaming, revenue increased 43% and 44% in constant currency, with
43 points of net impact from the Activision acquisition. Results were ahead
of expectations driven by stronger-than-expected performance in both
first- and third-party content as well as consoles. Xbox content and services
revenue increased 61% with 53 points of net impact from the Activision
acquisition.
Segment gross margin dollars increased 16% and 17% in constant currency,
with 12 points of net impact from the Activision acquisition. Gross margin
percentage was relatively unchanged year-over-year. Our strong execution
on margin improvement in Gaming and Search was offset by sales mix shift
to those businesses.
Capital expenditures including finance leases were $20 billion, in line with
expectations, and cash paid for P, P, and E was $14.9 billion. Roughly half of
our cloud and AI related spend continues to be for long-lived assets that
will support monetization over the next 15 years and beyond. The
remaining cloud and AI spend is primarily for servers, both CPUs and GPUs,
to serve customers based on demand signals.
Cash flow from operations was $34.2 billion, up 12% driven by strong cloud
billings and collections, partially offset by higher supplier, employee, and
tax payments. Free cash flow was $19.3 billion, down 7% year-over-year,
reflecting higher capital expenditures to support our cloud and AI offerings.
This quarter, other income and expense was negative $283 million,
significantly more favorable than anticipated due to foreign currency
remeasurement and net gains on investments. Our losses on investments
accounted for under the equity method were as expected.
First, FX. With the weaker US dollar and assuming current rates remain
stable, we expect FX to increase total revenue and segment level revenue
growth by less than one point. We expect FX to have no meaningful impact
to COGS or operating expense growth.
Our outlook has many of the trends we saw in Q1 continue thru Q2.
Customer demand for our differentiated solutions should drive another
quarter of strong growth.
Next, Intelligent Cloud. Helping our customers transform and grow with
innovative cloud and AI solutions is driving continued growth in Azure.
Therefore, we expect revenue in Intelligent Cloud to grow between 18%
and 20% in constant currency, or $25.55 to $25.85 billion.
Windows OEM and Devices revenue should decline in the low to mid-single
digits. We expect Windows OEM revenue growth, in line with the PC
market, to be more than offset by a decline in Devices as the trends from
Q1 continue.
Search and news advertising ex-TAC revenue growth should be in the high
teens with continued growth in both volume and revenue per search. This
will be higher than overall Search and news advertising revenue growth,
which we expect to be in the high single digits.
And in Gaming, we expect revenue to decline in the high single digits due
to hardware. We expect Xbox content and services revenue growth to be
relatively flat. We’re excited about last week’s launch of Call of Duty where
we saw the most Game Pass subscriber adds we’ve ever seen on a launch
day. There are two things about the launch that are different than the Call
of Duty launch a year ago where revenue was mostly recognized in the
quarter of purchase. First, the game is available on Game Pass so for players
who play through Game Pass, the subscription revenue is recognized over
time. Second, the game requires an online connection to play so even for
players who purchase the standalone game, revenue recognition will also
occur ratably over time.
BRETT IVERSEN: Thanks, Amy. We’ll now move over to Q&A. Out of
respect for others of the call, we request the participants please only ask
one question.
(Operator Direction.)
KEITH WEISS, Morgan Stanley: Excellent. Thank you, guys, for taking the
question, and congratulations on a really solid quarter.
Satya, the expansion of capabilities, the speed of innovation, the magnitude
of the opportunities ahead for generative AI makes this the most exciting
period for software I’ve seen in my 25 years of covering this space. And
based upon this call, it seems like you share that excitement.
And then on the other side of the spectrum, what are the external
constraints that Microsoft sees in building out this capacity to meet the
demand and capture the opportunity, particularly constraints in your ability
to power all these new data centers being built out and power it in an
environmentally sustainable fashion? I’d love to get the Microsoft
perspective on both those questions.
SATYA NADELLA: Thank you, Keith, for those questions. I think on the first
point, ultimately when you think about, let’s say, a capital outlay for
training, because that’s essentially what you’re asking, it is going to be very
limited by your monetization of inference in a given generation. Just like in
the past, we would allocate capital to build out cloud based on the demand
signal we were seeing, and then we would then project the demand, and
that’s what we would build for.
You can think of training essentially as that, which is you’re building the
next generation model so that then, you have a more capable model that
then drives more inference demand. Ultimately, even with all the scaling
laws and what have you, I think you ultimately will normalize to having a
pace.
In fact, I think the best way to think about even, is given the Moore’s Law
effectively is working on the silicon and system side, it’s just not compute,
it’s efficiencies in compute, it’s data as well as algorithms, you will want to
keep on that curve, which is you really want to refresh your fleet with the
Moore’s Law every year and then effectively depreciate it over the period of
the life cycle of it. And then the inference demand ultimately will govern
how much we invest in training, because that’s, I think, at the end of the
day, you’re all subject to ultimately demand.
The second piece of the external constraints, we have run into, obviously,
lots of external constraints because this demand all showed up pretty fast. I
mean, if you think about even the most hit products of this generation, all
are in our cloud, whether it’s ChatGPT, whether it’s Copilot, whether it’s
GitHub Copilot or even DAX Copilot. I mean, pick the top 4 or 5 products of
this generation, they’re all in and around our ecosystem.
And so, therefore, we ran into a set of constraints which are everything
because DCs don’t get built overnight. There is DCs. There is power. And so,
that’s been the short-term constraint. Even in Q2, for example, some of the
demand issues we have, or rather our ability to fulfill demand is because of,
in fact, external third-party stuff that we leased moving up. That’s the
constraints we have.
But in the long run, we do need effectively power, and we need DCs. And
some of these things are more long lead, but I feel pretty good that going
into the second half of even this fiscal year, that some of that supply
demand will match up.
(Operator Direction.)
BRENT THILL, Jefferies: Thanks. Amy, good to hear the acceleration in the
back half for Azure. I guess many are asking 34% growth in Q1 falling to
low 30s, I know the comp is a couple of points harder, but is there anything
else you’re contemplating in that guide for Q2 to see that deceleration
other than a tougher comp? Thank you.
AMY HOOD: Thanks, Brent. Maybe, this is a great question, because I can
reiterate some of the points I made and tie them together a little bit.
In Q1, the 34 in CC, as we talked about, that upside versus the 33 that we
had guided to was primarily due to some revenue recognition benefits. And
so, I think about that on a pure consumption basis and AI as being 33. And
you think about a point or two of decel that we guided to and the majority
of that is due to, unfortunately, some supply push outs that I mentioned,
and then Satya reiterated, in terms of AI supply coming online that we
counted on.
(Operator Direction.)
Can you give any color on how you think of that growth? Does it return to
the traditional approach, where basically CapEx is going to grow in line with
slightly slower than cloud revenue? And if so, any sense of the timing? Do
we do we have enough facilities online by some time next year, etcetera?
Any color would be appreciated.
AMY HOOD: Thanks, Mark. I think in some ways, it’s helpful to go back to
the cloud transitions that we worked on over a decade ago, I think, in the
early stages. And what you did see and you’ll see us do in the same time is
you have to build to meet demand. Unlike the cloud transition, we’re doing
it on a global basis in parallel, as opposed to sequential, given the nature of
the demand.
And then as long as we continue to see that demand grow, you’re right, the
growth in CapEx will slow and the revenue growth will increase. And those
two things, to your point, get closer and closer together over time. The
pace of that entirely depends really on the pace of adoption. And to Satya’s
point, some of that spend goes toward building the next training
infrastructure, so you won’t see all of it in COGS. Some of it goes to OpEx
when you’re spending it on training. But in general, that’s a healthy way to
think about the balance as it over time, those do and should, like the last
cycle, get closer together.
(Operator Direction.)
KARL KEIRSTEAD, UBS: Okay, great. Thank you. I’m actually not going out
to a question about the numbers, but Satya and Amy, I’d love to ask a
question about OpenAI.
Since the print three months ago, we investors have been hit with a torrent
of media stories about OpenAI and Microsoft. And I’d love to give
Microsoft an opportunity to frame the relationship. It seems to me it’s
critically important, but we have been, I think, everyone on the line, picking
up signals that perhaps Microsoft wants to diversify somewhat at the model
layer and offer customers choice. Satya, I’d love to get your framing of the
relationship.
And then in terms of the numbers, maybe this is a little bit more for you,
Amy, but how does Microsoft manage the demands on CapEx from helping
OpenAI with its scaling ambitions? And how do you manage the impact on
other income that you just gave us some color on? Thank you so much.
SATYA NADELLA: Sure. Thanks, Karl. I’d say first, the partnership for both
sides, that’s OpenAI and Microsoft, has been super beneficial. After all, we
effectively sponsored what is one of the most, highest valued private
companies today when we invested in them, and really took a bet on them
and their innovation four or five years ago. And that has led to great
success for Microsoft. That’s led to great success for OpenAI. And we
continue to build on it.
And at the same, also, I would say we are investors. We feel very, very good
about our investment stake in OpenAI. And so, our focus and we’re always
in constant dialogue with them. In a partnership like this, when both sides
have achieved mutual success at the pace at which we’ve achieved it, that
means we need to push each other to do more to capture the moment.
And that’s what we plan to do, and we intend to keep building on it.
AMY HOOD: And maybe to your other two questions, Karl, listen, I’m
thrilled with their success and need for supply from Azure and
infrastructure and really, what it’s meant in terms of being able to also serve
other customers for us. It’s important that we continue to invest capital to
meet not only their demand signal and needs for compute, but also from
our broader customers. That’s partially why you’ve seen us committing the
amounts of capital we’ve seen over the past few quarters, is our
commitment to both grow together and for us to continue to grow the
Azure platform for customers beyond them.
And so, I don’t really think of it as how do you balance it? It’s just we have
customers who have needs and real use cases and delivering value today.
And if we can’t meet that, we need to work to meet it. And that means
working harder and faster to make sure we do that, which is what the team
is committed to do.
The second piece of your question, I think, was on the impact to other
income. And not to get to accounting heavy on the earnings phone call, but
I would say just a reminder, this is under the equity method, which means
we just take our percentage of losses every quarter. And those losses, of
course, are capped by the amount of investment we make in total, which
we did talk about in Q this quarter as being $13 billion.
And so, over time, that’s just the constraint. And it’s a bit of a mechanical
entry. And so, I don’t really think about managing that. That’s the
investment and acceleration that OpenAI is making in themselves, and we
take a percentage of that.
KARL KEIRSTEAD Got it. Okay, very helpful. Thank you both.
(Operator Direction.)
KASH RANGAN, Goldman Sachs: Hi, thank you very much. Satya, when
you talked about the investment cycle, these models are getting bigger and
more expensive, but you also pointed out to how in the inference phase,
we’re likely to get paid. How does that cycle look like an inference from
Microsoft? Where are the products and the applications that will show up
on the Microsoft P&L as a result of the inference phase of AI kicking in?
Thank you very much.
SATYA NADELLA: Thanks, Kash. I mean, the good news for us is that we’re
not waiting for that inference to show up. If you think about the point we
even made, that this is going to be the fastest growth to $10 billion of any
business in our history, it’s all inference.
One of the things that may not be as evident is that we are not actually
selling raw GPUs for other people to train. In fact, that’s a business we turn
away, because we have so much demand on inference that we are not
taking what I would – in fact, there’s a huge adverse selection problem
today where people, it’s just a bunch of tech companies still using VC
money to buy a bunch of GPUs. We really are not even participating in
most of that, because we are literally going to the real demand, which is in
the enterprise space, or our own products like GitHub Copilot or M365
Copilot.
I feel the quality of our revenue is also pretty superior in that context. And
that’s what gives us even the conviction, to even Amy’s answers previously
about our capital spend, is if this was just all about a bunch of people
training large models and that was all we got, then that would be,
ultimately still waiting, to your point, for someone to actually have demand,
which is real. And in our case, the good news here is we have a diversified
portfolio. We’re seeing real demand across all of that portfolio.
AMY HOOD: And Kash, maybe just to add a little bit to what Satya is
saying, I think a part of his two answers is that what you’re seeing is this
number we’re talking about, the $10 billion across inference and our apps is
already what that momentum, and that investment, and that progress and
that revenue is what builds the next cycle of training. And so, it’s that circle
as opposed to, oh, we’re doing training now and then inference. Much of
the training investments that fueled this revenue growth came before, and
we already funded that work. And so, that’s an important point.
KASH RANGAN: Got it. And that’s to your point that you invest now and
you can get the growth later, even if you slow down the CapEx. That’s what
you’re trying to tell us.
(Operator Direction.)
MARK MURPHY, JP Morgan: Thank you very much. I’m wondering if you
can shed any more light just on the nature of the supply limitations that
you’re mentioning, that are impacting Azure and Q2, where that impact
might be incrementally, just a touch more than we expected. Is it more the
GPU supply? Is there some element of power cooling or the ability to wire
up the networks?
And, Amy, should we infer that the supply is constraining Azure growth by
roughly a couple of few points in Q2, or am I overestimating that?
AMY HOOD: Maybe to answer both those questions, Mark, very directly, I
wouldn’t think about it component logic in my Q2 answer. The supply push
out, as Satya said, with third parties that are delivering later than we had
expected. That gets pushed mainly into the second half of the year and in
general, Q3. That’s third parties where we have tended to buy supply
inclusive of kits. It’s complete end-to-end, third-party deliveries.
In terms of the impact, as I was saying, when you think about having flat
consumption Q1 to Q2, there really are only two things that impact that
difference. And one was the help we got in Q1 from the revenue and
revenue in accounting help. And then Q2 has been the supply push out.
(Operator Direction.)
RAIMO LENSCHOW, Barclays: Perfect. Thank you. If you talk about the
market at the moment, because you were first with Copilot, you had
identified along with Copilot, and now we’re talking agents.
Satya, how do you think about that? To me, it looks like an evolution that
we’re discovering how to productize AI better, etcetera. How do you think
about that journey between Copilot agents and maybe what’s coming next?
Thank you.
SATYA NADELLA: Sure. The system we have built is Copilot, Copilot Studio,
agents and autonomous agents. You should think of that as the spectrum
of things. Ultimately, the way we think about how this all comes together is
you need humans to be able to interface with AI. The UI layer for AI is
Copilot. You can then use the Copilot Studio to extend Copilot. For
example, you want to connect it to your CRM system, to your Office system,
to your HR system. You do that through Copilot Studio by building agents,
effectively.
You also build autonomous agents, so you can use even – that’s the
announcement we made a couple of weeks ago, is you can even use
Copilot Studio to build autonomous agents. Now, these autonomous
agents are working independently, but from time to time, they need to
raise an exception. Autonomous agents are not fully autonomous because
at some point, they need to either notify someone or have someone input
something. And when they need to do that, they need a UI layer. And that’s
where, again, it’s Copilot.
And then, of course, we are taking the underlying system services across
that entire stack that I just talked about and are making it available in
Azure. You have the raw infrastructure if you want it. You have the model
layer independent of it. You have the AI app server in Azure AI. Everything is
also a building block service in Azure for you to be able to build. In fact, if
you want to build everything that we have built in the Copilot Stack, you
can build it yourself using the AI platform. That’s in simple terms, our
strategy, and that’s how it all comes together.
BRETT IVERSEN: Thanks, Raimo. Operator, we have time for one last
question.
(Operator Direction.)
RISHI JALURIA, RBC: Oh, wonderful. Thanks. Hi, Satya. Hi, Amy. I
appreciate the question. I want to go and think a little bit about Copilot,
how we should be thinking about numbers here with the recategorization.
It seems like that was maybe softer in the past than expected, but maybe
with the numbers this quarter starting to pick up.
Can you maybe walk us through what you’re seeing on that, and maybe
more importantly, how we should be thinking about your overall AI strategy
on consumer versus enterprise, especially now with Mustafa in the fold.
Thanks so much.
SATYA NADELLA: Yeah. On the first part, Rishi, to your question, I think we
feel very, very good about the momentum we have in the Commercial
Copilot. As I said in my remarks, and Amy talked about, this is the fastest
growth of a new suite in M365. If I compare it to what we saw even back,
way back in E3 or E5, or the transition from O to M, this is really much
faster. It’s the numbers of penetration of the Fortune 500 and then the fact
that they’re coming back for more seats and what have you. It’s very strong
in that context.
The other thing I’ll also mention is that we want this to be something that is
systemic, because people need to be able to put the security controls. Then
they need to deploy. Then there’s skilling and then there’s change
management. This is not like you’re just – it’s not a tool.
When I talk about Copilot, Copilot Studio, agents, it’s really as much about
a new way to work. And sometimes I describe it as what happened
throughout the ‘90s with PC penetration. After all, if you take a business
process like forecasting, what was it like pre-email and Excel and post-email
and Excel. That’s the type of change that you see with Copilot. But overall
we feel great about the rate of progress and the penetration.
And then on the consumer side, look, for us, the exciting part here is to be
able to use the same investment we are making in the commercial, where
we have structural strength, and then be on the offense. One of the things
that I think I hope you all catch in our earnings is ex-TAC our revenue, when
it comes to what we describe as search, news and ads, is growing faster
than market.
It’s fantastic to see that. And so, that’s what consumer business, which in
Microsoft’s large scope, it’s even a $10+ billion business sometimes goes
missing. But in our case, it is actually a fantastic growth business that’s
growing faster than market.
We feel good about how we will use AI in LinkedIn. In fact, LinkedIn is a
consumer business, as you know. You saw even today, this week, they
announced some new capabilities for both consumers, and in their case,
even recruiting. We think that AI, the same investment gets monetized even
through LinkedIn’s innovation.
And Gaming, of course, is another place where you’ll will see some of these
things apply, and Windows. The place where I think I’m excited about is
Copilot+ PCs. For us, it’s not about having a disconnected edge. It’s about
having hybrid AI where the rebirth of the PC as the edge of AI is going to
be one of the most exciting things for developers.
We feel well positioned, quite frankly with the same investments. That’s the
thing. We’re not a conglomerate here. We are one company. That means
we invest once, and then we have all these categories that benefit from
that. And that’s the theory of the firm here for us. And so, we feel good
about all of that coming together.
AMY HOOD: And maybe just to add one piece, because I think, Rishi, now
that I’m listening and thinking through the question, it feels like you’re
wondering, why am I not seeing the Copilot if you’ve made all this progress
and the results. And the answer is you already are.
In that M365 Commercial number. we’ve seen that seat growth, but those
seats that we’re adding, the majority of them are driven by frontline worker
and small businesses. Those have a lower RPU point. And so, it masks some
of the RPU that we’re already seeing, not just from E5, which continues to
contribute, but also this quarter, additional impact from Copilot. As we go
forward, that is where you’re going to see the impact will be in RPU in
M365 Commercial. And as Satya said, I think you’ll see the impact of
Copilot engagement, frankly, across the same exact number.
BRETT IVERSEN: Thanks, Rishi. That wraps up the Q&A portion of today’s
earnings call. Thank you for joining us today, and we look forward to
speaking with all of you again soon.
(Operator Direction.)
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