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The document discusses various Varga charts in Vedic astrology, including HORA, Saptamsa, and Navmansa charts, emphasizing their significance in providing detailed insights into astrological events. It outlines the rules for constructing these charts based on the positions of planets and their respective houses. Additionally, it includes a section on calculating Vimshottari Mahadasha and Antar Dasha, detailing the steps and formulas involved in determining the timing of planetary periods.

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The document discusses various Varga charts in Vedic astrology, including HORA, Saptamsa, and Navmansa charts, emphasizing their significance in providing detailed insights into astrological events. It outlines the rules for constructing these charts based on the positions of planets and their respective houses. Additionally, it includes a section on calculating Vimshottari Mahadasha and Antar Dasha, detailing the steps and formulas involved in determining the timing of planetary periods.

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Varga or Divisional Charts HORA chart or D-2 divisional Chart

No Notes Theory of HORA chart making Theory of Saptamsa chart making Theory of Navmansa chart making

Deeply rooted in Vedic astrology, and not really found in Western Astrology. It
1 0 - 15deg of first HORA belongs to Sun and Moon Parashara says that each Rashi has to be divided into 7 equal parts. PLS REFER TO TABLE Below Parashara says that each Rashi has to be divided into 9equal parts. PLS REFER TO TABLE Below
involves the division and analysis of each zodiac sign into sub-parts.

2 Varga Charts add precision and accuracy in the timing of probable events 15 - 30deg of second HORA belongs to Moon and Sun When Lagna or planets are in ODD numbered sign, the counting will be from itself When Lagna or planets are in MOVABLE sign, the counting will be from itself

Each Varga chart contains some secret and hidden meaning of the facets of life When Lagna or planets are in FIXED sign, the counting will be from the 9th house from where
3 Odd Even <--- This is the Zodiac sign of the planet being analysed When Lagna or planets are in EVEN numbered sign, the counting will be from the 7th house from where the lagna or planet is placed
they are associated with the lagna or planet is placed

The rules of constructing the Saptamsa chart is as follows: When Lagna or planets are in DUAL sign, the counting will be from the 5th house from where
4 Birth Charts and Varga Charts are complimentary to each other Sun Moon 1. ALWAYS START with the Lagna in birth chart the lagna or planet is placed
2. Check the House sign for ODD/EVEN
3. Accordingly determine which house counting will start from
Any planet occupying its own house in the Varga chart becomes strong and is 4. Then check for that planet's Saptamsa slab from below The rules of constructing the Saptamsa chart is as follows:
5 1st HORA (0 - 15deg) Sun Moon 1st HORA (0-15deg) 5. Then count and place the planet
capable of giving good results in its main and sub periods 1. ALWAYS START with the Lagna in birth chart
2. Check the House sign for FIXED/MOVABLE/DUAL
The basic concept is that planets AT certain degrees or divisions become highly 3. Accordingly determine which house counting will start from
6 2nd HORA (15 - 30deg) Moon Sun 2nd HORA (15 - 30deg)
potent in relation to certain aspetcs of life (and vice versa) 4. Then check for that planet's Saptamsa slab from below
5. Then count and place the planet

Charts to be covered in Syllabus NOTE: HORA chart deals w/ 2nd House and assoc. wealth, prosperity, financial matters Saptamsa Slab Start Saptamsa Slab End Navmansa Slab Start Navmansa Slab End
Sl No Chart Type and English Name DRESHKANA Divisional Charts Slab Deg Min Seconds Fraction Deg Min Seconds Fraction Slab Deg Min Seconds Deg Min Seconds
Rishi Parashar says each zodiac should be divided into 3 equal parts. Thus each Dreshkan will be 1/3rd division of a rashi. The
1 Birth or Rasi Chart - called D-1 I 00 00 00 0 04 17 08 4/7 I 00 00 00 03 20 00
rules of DRESHKAAN chart making are:

2 HORA chart called D-2 Lagna or planet that is in the FIRST DRESHKAN (0-10deg) will remain in the same house in DRESHKAN chart II 04 17 08 4/7 08 34 17 1/7 II 03 20 00 06 40 00

3 DRESHKANA chart called D-3 Lagna or planet that is in the SECOND DRESHKAN (10-20deg) shall go to the FIFTH HOUSE from itself AND; III 08 34 17 1/7 12 51 25 5/7 III 06 40 00 10 00 00

4 SAPTAMSA chart called D-7 Lagna or planet that is in the THIRD DRESHKAN (20-30deg) shall go to the NINTH HOUSE from itself IV 12 51 25 5/7 17 08 34 2/7 IV 10 00 00 13 20 00

5 NAVAMSA chart called D-9 V 17 08 34 2/7 21 25 42 6/7 V 13 20 00 16 40 00

6 DWADASMASA chart called D-12 TRISHMAMSA Divisional Charts VI 21 25 42 6/7 25 42 51 3/7 VI 16 40 00 20 00 00

7 TRIMSAMSA chart called D-30 - In this divisional chart, there is no allocation to Sun and Moon VII 25 42 51 3/7 30 00 00 VII 20 00 00 23 20 00
- Ra and Ke are ignored
- See table below VIII 23 20 00 26 40 00

Rule (deg) Limits (Deg) Lord Odd Rashi Even Rashi Limits (Deg) Rule (deg) IX 26 40 00 30 00 00

5 0-5 Agni Mars (1) Mars (8) 25 - 30 5


5 5 - 10 Vayu Saturn (11) Saturn (10) 20 - 25 5
8 10 - 15 Indra Jupiter (9) Jupiter (12) 12 - 20 8

7 18 - 25 Kuber Mercury(3) Mercury(6) 5 - 12 7 Theory of Dwadashamsa chart making (Parents / Grand P/Spirituality) Theory of Dashamsa chart making
Parashara says that each Rashi has to be divided into 10 equal parts. PLS REFER TO TABLE
5 25 - 30 Varuna Venus(7) Venus(2) 0-5 5 Parashara says that each Rashi has to be divided into 12 equal parts. PLS REFER TO TABLE Below
Below

For all planets the counting will be from itself When Lagna or planets are in ODD sign, the counting will be from itself

When Lagna or planets are in EVEN sign, the counting will be from the 9th house from where
The rules of constructing the Saptamsa chart is as follows: the lagna or planet is placed
1. ALWAYS START with the Lagna in birth chart
2. Check the Rashi that it moves to
3. This becomes the Lagna - make the chart
4. IMP: Check the rashi the planet is moving to - not the House
The rules of constructing the Saptamsa chart is as follows:
1. ALWAYS START with the Lagna in birth chart
2. Check the House sign for ODD or EVEN
Dwadshamsa Slab Start Dwadashamsa Slab End
3. Accordingly determine which house counting will start from
4. Then check for that planet's Saptamsa slab from below
Slab Deg Min Seconds Deg Min Seconds 5. Then count and place the planet

I 00 00 00 02 30 00 Saptamsa Slab Start Saptamsa Slab End

II 02 30 00 05 00 00 Slab Deg Min Seconds Deg Min Seconds

III 05 00 00 7 30 00 I 00 00 00 03 00 00

IV 07 30 00 10 00 00 II 03 00 00 06 00 00

V 10 00 00 12 30 00 III 06 00 00 9 00 00

VI 12 30 00 15 00 00 IV 09 00 00 12 00 00

VII 15 00 00 17 30 00 V 12 00 00 15 00 00

VIII 17 30 00 20 00 00 VI 15 00 00 18 00 00

IX 20 00 00 22 30 00 VII 18 00 00 21 00 00

X 22 30 00 25 00 00 VIII 21 00 00 24 00 00

XI 25 00 00 27 30 00 IX 24 00 00 27 00 00

XII 27 30 00 30 00 00 X 27 00 00 30 00 00
Calculating Vimshottari Mahadasha and Antar Dasha

Data Bank
H M S Sign D M S
DoB 8/31/2024
ToB 09 30 00
IST/ZST Corr 00 00 00
UT at IST 05 30 0
Longitude of Moon 9/1/2024 03 21 42 24
Longitude of Moon 8/31/2024 03 09 21 24

Part I: Calculating Nakshatra and MD Lord

Step I: Corrected Birth Time at IST Step I: Calculating Balanc


ToB 09 30 00
IST/ZST Correction 00 00 00 Formula:
Corrected Birth Time 09 30 00
{(Ending Point o
Step II: Adjustment Ratio Calculation
Birth Time 09 30 00
UT at IST 05 30 00
Difference 04 00 00 Ending Point of Nakshatra
Adjustment Ratio 0.1666667 Longitude of Moon at ToB
Difference
Step III: Calculate the longitude of Moon at Birth Convert to Minutes - Valu
convert 13-20 in minutes
Longitude of Moon 9/1/2024 03 21 42 24 Value 1 / Value 2 - Value
Longitude of Moon 8/31/2024 03 09 21 24
Distance travelled by Moon (24hrs) 00 12 21 00 Value 3 x Total Years for D
Adjusted for by the Ratio (see above) 123.5 2.058

Longitude of Moon 8/31/2024 03 09 21 24 Balance Time Left for Sat


Adjusted distance travelled by Moon 02 04 30
Longitude of Moon at ToB 03 11 24 54 Step II: Calculating other

Output I: Date of Birth


Nakshatra of Moon at ToB Pushya Balance time left for Sa
Nakshatra Lord Saturn End date for Saturn MD
Running MD at ToB Saturn
Mercury
Ketu
Venus
Sun
Moon
Mars
Rahu
Jupiter

Total MD period for Sa


Balance period left in Sa M
Period Passed in Sa MD a

Value A
Value B
Total
Date of Birth
Difference of Values
Planet Dasha Years
Ketu 7
Venus 20
Sun 6
Moon 10
Mars 7
Rahu 18
Jupiter 16
Saturn 19
Mercury 17

Calculating the MD and AD periods

Step I: Calculating Balance MD period left as at ToB Formula I:


(MD years (of concerne

Pls note: The answer you


{(Ending Point of Nakshatra - Current Long of Moon) / 13-20} x Total Dasha yrs (for the Lord)
get will be in "yrs" Formula II:
(MD years (of concerned
Sign D M S

Ending Point of Nakshatra 03 16 39 60


Longitude of Moon at ToB 03 11 24 54 Ending Date of Sa MD
05 15 06 Total Sa MD period
Convert to Minutes - Value 1 315 Sa MD start date
convert 13-20 in minutes - Value 2 800
Value 1 / Value 2 - Value 3 00.3939
Sa - Sa Period
Value 3 x Total Years for Dasha Lord 07.48 05.804
Sa - Me Period
Years Months Days
Sa - Ke Period
Balance Time Left for Saturn Mahadasha 07 05 24
Sa - Ve Period
Sa - Ve Period
Step II: Calculating other planet MD periods
Sa - Su Period
Date of Birth 2024 8 31
Balance time left for Sa (+) 07 05 24
Sa - Mo Period
End date for Saturn MD 2032 2 25
Sa - Ma Period
MD Period 2049 02 25
MD Period 2056 02 25
Sa - Ra Period
MD Period 2076 02 25
MD Period 2082 02 25
Sa - Ju Period
MD Period 2092 02 25
MD Period 2099 02 25
MD Period 2117 02 25
MD Period 2133 02 25 Tag this as Value A

Total MD period for Sa 18 11 30 Note - another way of writing 19yrs


Balance period left in Sa MD 07 05 24
Period Passed in Sa MD at DoB 11 06 06 Tag this as Value B

2133 02 25
(+) 11 06 06
2144 8 31
Date of Birth (-) 2024 8 31
Difference of Values 120 0 0 Confirms that calcs are correct
Calculating the Antardashas in a Mahadasha Calculating the P

Formula :
(MD years (of concerned planet) x MD years (of running Lord)) / 120. This answer is in years (MD years (of MD Lord) x MD years (of ru
Please Note:
The first period of pratyantar dasha is of the p
From DoB and calculation of Antardasha table
(MD years (of concerned planet) x MD years (of running Lord)) / 10. This answer is in months
Thus our Pratyantar dasha calculations will st
Please check that the final Pratyantar Dasha V
Years Months Days
ing Date of Sa MD 2032 02 25
al Sa MD period (-) 19 00 00
MD start date 2013 02 25 Sa - Mo start date

= (19 x 19) / 120 03 00 03 3.0 0.1 = (19 x 10 x 10) / 40


Sa - Mo - Mo
2016 02 28
= (17 x 19) / 120 02 08 09 2.7 8.3 9.0 = (19 x 10 x 7) / 40
Sa - Mo - Ma
2018 11 07
=(07 x 19) / 120 01 01 09 1.1 1.3 9.0 =(19 x 10 x 18) / 40
Sa - Mo - Ra
2019 12 16
=(20 x 19) / 120 03 02 00 3.2 2.0 0.0 =(19 x 10 x 16) / 40
Sa - Mo - Ju
In these calculations
we are using the
Formula I from
above
Sa - Mo - Ju
2023 02 16 In these calculations
= (6 x 19) / 120 00 11 12 we are using the 1.0 11.4 12.0 = (19 x 10 x 19) / 40
Sa - Mo - Sa
2024 01 28 Formula I from
= (10 x 19) / 120 01 07 00 above 1.6 7.0 0.0 = (19 x 10 x 17) / 40
Sa - Mo - Me
2025 08 28
= (7 x 19) / 120 01 01 09 1.1 1.3 9.0 = (19 x 10 x 7) / 40
Sa - Mo - Ke
2026 10 07
= (18 x 19) / 120 02 10 06 2.9 10.2 6.0 = (19 x 10 x 20) / 40
Sa - Mo - Ve
2029 08 13
= (16 x 19) / 120 02 06 12 2.5 6.4 12.0 = (19 x 10 x 6) / 40
Sa - Mo - Su
2032 02 25
Calculating the Pratyantardashas in a Mahadasha - Antardasha Calculating the Sookshma an

Formula :
(MD years (of MD Lord) x MD years (AD planet) x MD years (PT Plan
of MD Lord) x MD years (of running AD planet) x (MD of PT Planet)) / 40. This answer is in DAYS
is in HRS

of pratyantar dasha is of the planet that is running the Antardasha Static Ratio 4.75 Formula :
alculation of Antardasha table - we know current period is Sa-Mo (MD years (of MD Lord) x MD years (AD planet) x MD years (PT Pla
ntar dasha calculations will start from Sa - Mo with reference to DoB 400. This answer is in MINS
at the final Pratyantar Dasha Value matches the table for Antardasha

Years Months Days

2024 01 28.105

= (19 x 10 x 10) / 40 2024 01 17.500 47.50 17.50


2024 03 15.605
= (19 x 10 x 7) / 40 2024 01 03.250 33.25 3.25
2024 04 18.855
=(19 x 10 x 18) / 40 2024 02 25.500 85.50 25.50
2024 07 14.355
=(19 x 10 x 16) / 40 2024 02 16.000 76.00 16.00
2024 10 00.355
= (19 x 10 x 19) / 40 2024 03 00.250 90.25 0.25
2025 01 00.605
= (19 x 10 x 17) / 40 2025 02 20.750 80.75 20.75
2025 03 21.355
= (19 x 10 x 7) / 40 2025 01 03.250 33.25 3.25
2025 04 24.605
= (19 x 10 x 20) / 40 2025 03 05.000 95.00 5.00
2025 07 29.605
= (19 x 10 x 6) / 40 2025 00 28.500 28.50 28.50
2025 08 28.105
ulating the Sookshma and Pran dasha

anet) x MD years (PT Planet) x MD yrs (Sokks.)) / 200. This answer


is in HRS

planet) x MD years (PT Planet) x MD yrs (Sokks.) x Md yrs (Prn)) /


0. This answer is in MINS
Calculating Yogini Dasha

1 Yogini dasha is nakshatra based dasha system and is based on the longitude of the Moon at birth
2 Mostly used in the himalayan areas to very good effect
3 It is a very good tool for prediction and has a short life span of 36 years
It should be used with the Vimshottari dasha system and intepretation should be based from Lagna,
4 Using the formula given on the left, with N=8:
Moon and relevant significator
5 In Yogini Dasha, some degree of error in the Mo is tolerable, provided the ASC is correct
6 When used with divisional charts - the result is very good = (8 + 3) / 8
= Q=1 and R=3
Formula : We ignore the quotient and focus on the remainder
This numer 3 results in telling us that current MD of
(N + 3) / 8. The N here stands for the Nakshatra number
Formula:
Please Note
N stands for the Nakshatra no as determined by the longitude of the Moon at time of birth. (bet. 1 - {(Ending Point of Nakshatra - Current Lon
1
27)
2 From the equation above and resultant value - we disregard the quotient and focus on the remainder From above formula we have:

3 This remainder will be then used to identify the dasha from the Table below

Yog. Dasha Years Lord


Mangla 01 Mo Balance period of Dhanya
Pingla 02 Su DoB
Dhanya 03 Ju Ending Date for Dhanya
Bhramari 04 Ma MD for Bhramari
Bhadrika 05 Me MD for Bhadrika
Ulka 06 Sa MD for Ulka
Siddha 07 Ve MD for Siddha
Sankata 08 Ra MD for Sankata
Total 36 <-- There are 8 yoginis spanning 36 years in this system MD for Mangla
MD for Pingla
** Period of Dhanya elapsed
Total time period
Total period for Yogini Dasha

Full period of Dhanya


Period of Dhanya remaining
Period of Dhanya elapsed
Part I: Calculating Nakshatra and MD Lord

Sign D M S Formula:
Longitude of Moon at ToB 3 11 24 54
= (MD (of the Type lo
given on the left, with N=8: Using the Longitude of Moon, we can determine that birth happened in the
Pushya nakshatra (no:8) - see table in "Nakshatra" Tab

tient and focus on the remainder = 3


ts in telling us that current MD of "Dhanya" is running
Ending Period of Date Mahadasha
Total Period of Dhanya Mahadasha
Begininng Date of Dhanya Mahadasha
Point of Nakshatra - Current Long of Moon) / 13-20} x Total Yogini Dasha yrs (for the Lord)

la we have: = (5deg 15m 06s / 13deg 20min)*3 = (3 x 3) / 36


Dha - Dha
1.181625 2.1795 5.385

= (3 x 4) / 36
Dha - Bhrmri
Y M D
01 02 5.385 =(3 x 5) / 36
Dha - Bhdka
2024 08 31
2025 11 6.385 =(3 x 6) / 36
Dha - Ulka
2029 11 6.385 04
2034 11 6.385 05 = (3 x 7) / 36
Dha - Siddha
2040 11 6.385 06
2047 11 6.385 07 = (3 x 8) / 36
Dha - Sankla
2055 11 6.385 08
2056 11 6.385 01 = (3 x 1) / 36
Dha - Mangla
2058 11 6.385 02
01 09 24.615 = (3 x 2) / 36
Dha - Pingla
2060 08 31.000
(-) 36 00 0
2024 08 31 <-- This matches my DoB so calcs are correct

02 11 30
01 02 5.385
01 09 24.615
Part II: Calculating Antardasha for given Mahadasha

= (MD (of the Type looking at) x MD (of the relevant period))/36 = Answer in YRS

Static Ratio 0.0833333

Y M D

of Date Mahadasha 2025 11 06.385 <--- This is from previous section calculations
Dhanya Mahadasha (-) 03 00 00.000 <--- from the table previously given
of Dhanya Mahadasha 2022 11 06.385
Y M D 1st Value
= (3 x 3) / 36 00 03 00.000 3 0 3 0 0.25

2023 02 06.385

= (3 x 4) / 36 00 03 30.000 4 0 3 30 0.3333333
2023 06 06.385
=(3 x 5) / 36 00 04 30.000 5 0 4 30 0.4166667
2023 11 06.385
=(3 x 6) / 36 00 06 00.000 6 0 6 0 0.5
2024 05 06.385
= (3 x 7) / 36 00 06 30.000 7 0 6 30 0.5833333
2024 12 06.385
= (3 x 8) / 36 00 07 30.000 8 0 7 30 0.6666667
2025 08 06.385
= (3 x 1) / 36 00 00 30.000 1 0 0 30 0.0833333
2025 09 06.385
= (3 x 2) / 36 00 01 30.000 2 0 1 30 0.1666667
2025 11 06.385
01 01 01 <--- if this all TRUE - calcs are correct
Bhava Kundali Notes

Static birth charts have equal divisions between each house and rashi of 30 degrees each. However there is another system of horoscope with unequal charts
and divisions called the Bhava kundli

Birth Chart
Birth chart is a chart of the heavens with 12 zodiac signs and 12 houses of 30deg each. Thus, it is a chart of equal division of houses. The equal house system has
wide acceptability

Bhava Chart
is a chart of the heavens with unequal divisions of each house. It is based upon the relationship bet. the Ecliptic and the Celestial Equator. The variations in
unequal divisions is due to the latitude of birth (this problem gets accentuated at high longitudes)

Ascendent
is the point of intersection between Ecliptic and the Eastern point, at any given point in time. It is the first house of the horoscope

Xth Cusp
is the point of intersection bet. The Ecliptic and the Meridien of the place, at any given point in time. It’s the 10H of the horoscope. For the observer - it is the
plum line on the celestial sphere directly above the observer where the observers meridien intersects the Ecliptic
Calculation of the Xth Cusp

oroscope with unequal charts Using the existing horoscope for DoB: 31.08.2024, ToB: 09:30am IST and PoB: New Delhi, we have:

H M S Sign Deg M S
Sidereal Time at Birth 07 48 11
ses. The equal house system has Ascendant at Birth 05 29 31 23

For the sidereal time, find the nearest latitudes from ToA BUT for 10th Cusp (Page 8 and Page 80):

l Equator. The variations in Higher Cusp Value 07 52 00 03 03 00 00


Lower Cusp Value 07 48 00 03 02 03 00
Difference bet the two 04 00 0 00 57 00

04 mins is equivalent to 57 mins


pe
04 seconds is eq. to 57 seconds
11 seconds is eq. to 156.75 = 2m 37s

pe. For the observer - it is the Lower Cusp Value 07 48 00 03 02 03 00


Adding minute correction 00 00 00
Adding seconds correction 00 11 02 37
Sidereal time of birth 7 48 11 03 02 05 37
Ayanamsha Correction (-) 1 12 0
03 0 53 37

Therefore Xth Cusp Longitude at birth is: Cancer 00 53 37


Calculation of each division between Lagna, Xth house and 7th H

Sign Deg M S
Ascendant at Birth 05 29 31 Note:
The Xth House ALWAYS HAS TO BE subtracted from Lagna. Never other way
Xth House Cusp 03 00 54 For this calc purpose - figures have been rounded to minutes
Difference 02 28 37 00 Tag this as Value A

Convert the difference to degrees= (2 x 30deg) + 28deg + (37/60)deg


88.616667 Tag this as Value B

Now divide Value B by 6 to get resultant degrees, minutes and seconds

Value of each 1/6th bet Asc and Xth H 14 46 10 Tag this as Value C

Xth House Cusp Value 03 00 54 00


Add Value C 00 14 46 10
10th / 11th Bhav Sandhi 03 15 40 10
Add Value C 00 14 46 10
11th House Cusp 04 00 26 20
Add Value C 00 14 46 10
11th / 12th Bhava Sandhi 04 15 12 30
Add Value C 00 14 46 10
12th House Cusp 04 29 58 40
Add Value C 00 14 46 10
12th / Lagna Bhav Sandhi 05 14 44 50
Add Value C 00 14 46 10
Lagna Value 05 29 31 00
TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE <--- If this matches calcs are correct

To calculate 7th House Cusp, add 6s to the Ascendant :


Thus 7th H Cusp value is 11 29 31 00

Xth House Cusp 03 00 54 00


Add 12S if below 12 12 00 00 00
Resultant Value 15 00 54 00
VIIth House Cusp 11 29 31 00
Difference bet the two 03 01 23 00

Convert the difference to degrees= (3 x 30deg) + 1deg + (23/60)deg


91.383333 Tag this as Value D

Now divide Value B by 6 to get resultant degrees, minutes and seconds

Value of each 1/6th bet Asc and Xth H 15 13 50 Tag this as Value E

7th House Cusp Value 11 29 31 00


Add Value E 00 15 13 50
7th / 8th Bhav Sandhi 12 14 44 50
Add Value E 00 15 13 50
8th House Cusp 12 29 58 40
Add Value E 00 15 13 50
8th / 9h Bhava Sandhi 01 15 12 30
Add Value E 00 15 13 50
9th House Cusp 02 00 26 20
Add Value E 00 15 13 50
9th / 10th Bhav Sandhi 02 15 40 10
Add Value E 00 15 13 50
10th House Cusp 03 00 54 00
TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE <--- If this matches calcs are correct
gna. Never other way
inutes

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